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	<title>Comments on: Garden &amp; Vanilla 2 on GitHub Now</title>
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		<title>By: Luis Pirir</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/garden-vanilla-2-on-github-now/comment-page-1/#comment-27665</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Pirir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice, great work !</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/garden-vanilla-2-on-github-now/comment-page-1/#comment-24882</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ismo, I built this framework because none of the other frameworks could do what I needed, and I didn&#039;t want to start a fork of some other framework which I would eventually end up completely rewriting anyway.

Also, it&#039;s not like I&#039;m writing everything from the ground up. Vanilla 2 &amp; Garden are built on many other solid open source projects: jQuery, Smarty, HtmlPurifier, phpass, and phpmailer to name a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ismo, I built this framework because none of the other frameworks could do what I needed, and I didn&#8217;t want to start a fork of some other framework which I would eventually end up completely rewriting anyway.</p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s not like I&#8217;m writing everything from the ground up. Vanilla 2 &#038; Garden are built on many other solid open source projects: jQuery, Smarty, HtmlPurifier, phpass, and phpmailer to name a few.</p>
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		<title>By: Ismo</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/garden-vanilla-2-on-github-now/comment-page-1/#comment-24773</link>
		<dc:creator>Ismo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I would have liked to see Vanilla 2 built on top of some more mature web framework instead of seeing the wheel getting reinvented again. I mean don&#039;t get me wrong, but building and maintaining good web framework is a lot of work, if you really want it to succeed. So how do you justify creating a new framework instead of taking advantage of an existing one?

I did read through your mission statement to get some hints, but its not very specific about this matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I would have liked to see Vanilla 2 built on top of some more mature web framework instead of seeing the wheel getting reinvented again. I mean don&#8217;t get me wrong, but building and maintaining good web framework is a lot of work, if you really want it to succeed. So how do you justify creating a new framework instead of taking advantage of an existing one?</p>
<p>I did read through your mission statement to get some hints, but its not very specific about this matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/garden-vanilla-2-on-github-now/comment-page-1/#comment-23669</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John - Beware, the master version is quite buggy. We&#039;re working through all of the bugs to get it stable. Next week we should have a much more stable release available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John &#8211; Beware, the master version is quite buggy. We&#8217;re working through all of the bugs to get it stable. Next week we should have a much more stable release available.</p>
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		<title>By: John (Human3rror)</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/garden-vanilla-2-on-github-now/comment-page-1/#comment-23668</link>
		<dc:creator>John (Human3rror)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>downloading. love what you&#039;re doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>downloading. love what you&#8217;re doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/garden-vanilla-2-on-github-now/comment-page-1/#comment-23645</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 12:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, how would i go about contacting you directly mark?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, how would i go about contacting you directly mark?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/garden-vanilla-2-on-github-now/comment-page-1/#comment-23378</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@S - Please use the github issue tracker now. I&#039;m going to be taking the old one down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@S &#8211; Please use the github issue tracker now. I&#8217;m going to be taking the old one down.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/garden-vanilla-2-on-github-now/comment-page-1/#comment-23377</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the place for reporintg bugs, suggestions, etc?
http://issues.gardenframework.com/
http://github.com/lussumo/Garden/issues</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the place for reporintg bugs, suggestions, etc?<br />
<a href="http://issues.gardenframework.com/" rel="nofollow">http://issues.gardenframework.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://github.com/lussumo/Garden/issues" rel="nofollow">http://github.com/lussumo/Garden/issues</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/garden-vanilla-2-on-github-now/comment-page-1/#comment-23080</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m loving the framework so far. Its almost one step up from codeigniter which i think is perfect for me. The ability to have all the plugins, user, permissions, other applications automated for me is a huge benefit. Hope the documentation is coming along. Especially the part about single signon. The ability to integrate the forum into other websites is a major factor in choosing a forum. I would imagine with the new framework there will be less of a need to hack parts of the code. For future applications i will definitely  look into Garden framework more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m loving the framework so far. Its almost one step up from codeigniter which i think is perfect for me. The ability to have all the plugins, user, permissions, other applications automated for me is a huge benefit. Hope the documentation is coming along. Especially the part about single signon. The ability to integrate the forum into other websites is a major factor in choosing a forum. I would imagine with the new framework there will be less of a need to hack parts of the code. For future applications i will definitely  look into Garden framework more.</p>
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		<title>By: suliaman</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/garden-vanilla-2-on-github-now/comment-page-1/#comment-23044</link>
		<dc:creator>suliaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeh wiked thanks mark, brillant work, big thank you from everyone in the Uk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeh wiked thanks mark, brillant work, big thank you from everyone in the Uk</p>
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