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		<title>By: Mark O&#8217;Sullivan - Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Garden Preview Part V: Data</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/more-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-11914</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark O&#8217;Sullivan - Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Garden Preview Part V: Data</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first started working on the classes, for example, I created two other implementations: SQLite and Microsoft SQL Server. MySQL is the only implementation planned for launch, but others may come afterwards. With this in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first started working on the classes, for example, I created two other implementations: SQLite and Microsoft SQL Server. MySQL is the only implementation planned for launch, but others may come afterwards. With this in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark O&#8217;Sullivan - Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Garden Preview Part II: FileSystem</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/more-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-10662</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark O&#8217;Sullivan - Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Garden Preview Part II: FileSystem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] application is the first application that I developed with Garden, which you may remember from a few months ago. Sadly, after months of changing how the core Garden libraries work, the Scaffolding application is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] application is the first application that I developed with Garden, which you may remember from a few months ago. Sadly, after months of changing how the core Garden libraries work, the Scaffolding application is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MySchizoBuddy</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/more-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-3250</link>
		<dc:creator>MySchizoBuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 06:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh you should add &quot;recent comments &quot; widget on this blog, so other users can know about new comments on past post. I dunno if anyone has subscribed to the comment RSS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh you should add &#8220;recent comments &#8221; widget on this blog, so other users can know about new comments on past post. I dunno if anyone has subscribed to the comment RSS.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/more-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-3235</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adding new db support *should* be easy, but it&#039;s always hard to know how to cover all the bases of language syntax until you&#039;ve spent a lot of time working with a database. I&#039;ve only used sqlite, for example, a very small amount. And what I did learn was that it doesn&#039;t have a lot of bells and whistles. So, it may end up being a bit harder to accomodate it. Postgre, however, should work out of the box.

The form api does come with controls. And 90% of the models should also work without any extra coding (ie. instantiate a model object, tell it what table you are working with, and it takes care of the loading/saving/data-error-checking for you).

re: your posts slowing me down - hehehe - no big deal. Your email about php optimizations, for example, I knew most of the things on the list. There was one thing (php&#039;s magic methods) that I didn&#039;t know about, and I was planning on using them for Garden&#039;s extension system - I just didn&#039;t know how slow they were! I&#039;m still going to move ahead with it for the time being, but I have a backup plan if they end up being too slow during the next round of profiling...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adding new db support *should* be easy, but it&#8217;s always hard to know how to cover all the bases of language syntax until you&#8217;ve spent a lot of time working with a database. I&#8217;ve only used sqlite, for example, a very small amount. And what I did learn was that it doesn&#8217;t have a lot of bells and whistles. So, it may end up being a bit harder to accomodate it. Postgre, however, should work out of the box.</p>
<p>The form api does come with controls. And 90% of the models should also work without any extra coding (ie. instantiate a model object, tell it what table you are working with, and it takes care of the loading/saving/data-error-checking for you).</p>
<p>re: your posts slowing me down &#8211; hehehe &#8211; no big deal. Your email about php optimizations, for example, I knew most of the things on the list. There was one thing (php&#8217;s magic methods) that I didn&#8217;t know about, and I was planning on using them for Garden&#8217;s extension system &#8211; I just didn&#8217;t know how slow they were! I&#8217;m still going to move ahead with it for the time being, but I have a backup plan if they end up being too slow during the next round of profiling&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MySchizoBuddy</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/more-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-3233</link>
		<dc:creator>MySchizoBuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>php 5.3 sounds good to me.
Can you talk more about the Form and Database API. particularly how hard or easy will it be to add postgresql and sqlite support. will the form api come with a set of form widgets?

the first extension that i will add to Garden is Google Gears support (http://code.google.com/apis/gears), to allow the forum to work offline, reading posts and writing posts offline, plus client side caching and storage. 

i hope my post doesn&#039;t slow you down even further</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>php 5.3 sounds good to me.<br />
Can you talk more about the Form and Database API. particularly how hard or easy will it be to add postgresql and sqlite support. will the form api come with a set of form widgets?</p>
<p>the first extension that i will add to Garden is Google Gears support (<a href="http://code.google.com/apis/gears" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/apis/gears</a>), to allow the forum to work offline, reading posts and writing posts offline, plus client side caching and storage. </p>
<p>i hope my post doesn&#8217;t slow you down even further</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/more-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-3053</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 06:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christmas is the hope, but I can&#039;t promise anything. Some days things go very well, other days I take many steps backwards. Like, for example, after reading your post and your email the other day - things have been going slower.

The requirement will probably be php 5.2.x and possibly even 5.3 (there are a few proposed things in it that I&#039;d like to get into Garden, but we&#039;ll see what happens). 

As for MySQL, I am still trying to keep my queries very basic, so the requirements shouldn&#039;t be so stringent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christmas is the hope, but I can&#8217;t promise anything. Some days things go very well, other days I take many steps backwards. Like, for example, after reading your post and your email the other day &#8211; things have been going slower.</p>
<p>The requirement will probably be php 5.2.x and possibly even 5.3 (there are a few proposed things in it that I&#8217;d like to get into Garden, but we&#8217;ll see what happens). </p>
<p>As for MySQL, I am still trying to keep my queries very basic, so the requirements shouldn&#8217;t be so stringent.</p>
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		<title>By: MySchizoBuddy</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/more-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-3052</link>
		<dc:creator>MySchizoBuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 04:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you will be releasing this around chritmas, have you decided on the min requirements. Php 5.2 and which version of Mysql 4 or 5
PLus are you using the php 5.2 build in filter functions like Filter_input_array etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since you will be releasing this around chritmas, have you decided on the min requirements. Php 5.2 and which version of Mysql 4 or 5<br />
PLus are you using the php 5.2 build in filter functions like Filter_input_array etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Jones</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/more-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-2948</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 00:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SONNOFABIZNATCH

I&#039;m still ingrained to the fact that you are a windows developer, northwind breaks wind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SONNOFABIZNATCH</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still ingrained to the fact that you are a windows developer, northwind breaks wind!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/more-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-2941</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol @ Wallphone.

Jonezy, you are correct that the MVC stuff is new. But James takes the prize :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol @ Wallphone.</p>
<p>Jonezy, you are correct that the MVC stuff is new. But James takes the prize <img src='http://markosullivan.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://markosullivan.ca/more-scaffolding/comment-page-1/#comment-2940</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Northwind is MS SQL, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Northwind is MS SQL, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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